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NaughtyMe
While I might rue this - you spies out there might find this useful:

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums...p?t=705296

Take a little heart and if you find them useful...give me a break sometime lol..


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Abunai
my spy side is offended that you didnt mention me ;o
not really i havent played it in ages

nice videos, cheers

Edited by Abunai on 19-07-2008 17:52


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Raven
aye pretty good vids Smile
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Rofl teh cake
Well, mine is. X)

Very good videos, but I for one figured out most of those techniques by myself, but something like the stair-leaping-stab is new. X)
Nevertheless, that OMFGNINJA is a magnificent spy, his example of the cap of well while loads of sentries were around was incredibly good, lots of patience and concentration wasted there. But getting so close to decloak is very risky, especially when good players are around, because they also can hear that sound while yer decloaking, so here, I'll just question the skill of the players, which he killed.

Does Sun-Tzu play TF2? His quotes pretty much fit in perfect.

Edited by Rofl teh cake on 19-07-2008 19:22

 
NaughtyMe

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Rofl teh cake wrote:
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Does Sun-Tzu play TF2? His quotes pretty much fit in perfect.


Lol - he wrote the Art of War. If you ever read it, you'll be amazed how his theories can be fit to many situations - forms of his theories are actually business practice!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun-Tzu

EDIT: here is an online version of it:

http://stockmarketbooks.blogspot.com/...f-war.html

Edited by NaughtyMe on 19-07-2008 19:27


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Fallen Seraph
... and then he used his fight money to buy two of every animal and then he herded them onto a boat and then he beat the living crap out of them.
 
Ramini
Wasn't that Samson? Smile

Not bad video, knew all the techniques except the illusion which but can't pull them off as well since I don't play spy too often. He can't hit a barn wall with that revolver though.

Those people he's killing are quite sucky though, stalking surely doesn't work, people have headsets! Vs the demoman in video 2 I think it was he got hit and his cloak would have flickered but the demo didnt notice. Then the random guy inthe last video asking how to spin his minigun!

He didn't mention a vital distraction method though, sap the teleporter entrances, you cut off supply lines and also the engineer occasionally will run back to replace it leaving an unguarded sentry.
 
agrippa
yeah a few (but not too many) of the ppl he was up aganist werent that great (one vid had a guy asking how to spool up teh Heavy gun), but everything the video said was completly sound imo.

Also I rate most of the CI server regulars very highly and yet alot of what he said is what i do, so it does work alot.

One interestign thing he said was about stalking a pyro. Ive said before that pyros players are the worst for spy checking when they are running ot a target location (like a set of turrets they want to defend). There is this assumption that if you are a pyro the spys will run away from you and thats just not true, ive seen rofl, spaceboy and El pistoliaero (pardon bad spelling) picking a fight aganist a pyro and winning.

good video anyway, nice find.

Edited by agrippa on 19-07-2008 20:22

 
Locke

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naughtyme wrote:

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Rofl teh cake wrote:
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Does Sun-Tzu play TF2? His quotes pretty much fit in perfect.


Lol - he wrote the Art of War. If you ever read it, you'll be amazed how his theories can be fit to many situations - forms of his theories are actually business practice!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun-Tzu

EDIT: here is an online version of it:

http://stockmarketbooks.blogspot.com/...f-war.html


***Warning Geek Content***

If you can understand "The Art of War" then I recomend reading Machiavelli's "The Prince"
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Epic Quotes from Mr Lazor - "time for a penis break". and "is crit japanese for clit?".
 
Megalomania
Machiavelli > Sun Tzu any day of the week.

This edition of the The Prince has to be the prettiest book I own.
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Sammage
Egads! This is basically the best guide ever and now we're all gonna die Sad

Well, maybe not. There are some scary spies already on the CI server who do all of these already. Also, that guy at no point advocates the use of the pistol (maybe because his aim is terrible), so there's still hope!

 
NaughtyMe

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Locke wrote:

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naughtyme wrote:

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Rofl teh cake wrote:
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Does Sun-Tzu play TF2? His quotes pretty much fit in perfect.


Lol - he wrote the Art of War. If you ever read it, you'll be amazed how his theories can be fit to many situations - forms of his theories are actually business practice!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun-Tzu

EDIT: here is an online version of it:

http://stockmarketbooks.blogspot.com/...f-war.html


***Warning Geek Content***

If you can understand "The Art of War" then I recomend reading Machiavelli's "The Prince"


Sun Tzu is fairly easy to understand - because it's given in tit-bits, small paragraphs. However, a master of his theories can remember and put them into practice! I have Machiavelli;s book - but I'm cheap and have it in my favourites here:

http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/...index.html

Edited by NaughtyMe on 19-07-2008 23:56


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Sammage
I'm reading sun-tzu's bit on spies and he doesn't even talk about the proper way to stab and sap, that's like basic spy stuff. Plus I don't think the people he was fighting have even PLAYED tf2 before. omfgninja's thing is better by far.

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wolflordandy
Very nice video, now to go counter-spy grip Pfft

(oh, and hello Ci peoples!)
 
Don Pedro
sun-tzu <-------- noob

and hallo wolflordandy, can i drop the wolflord bit? a mate was round the other night and called me a wanker for saying something like, "wolflord there's a spy behind you!"

it did make me sound like a bit of a cuntGrin

Edited by Don Pedro on 21-07-2008 17:53

 
Raven
(Ey andy lolSmile)
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jem58
Hey andy

Random question, but can other players hear spies cloaking/uncloaking? I guess they can't, don't think I ever have. However you can see the slight whiff of smoke when a spy changes their disguise and cloaks, though no-one else seems to notice this :/ Oh and if you see floating water droplets then for gods sake shoot it.
 
wolflordandy
Yes, you can hear them cloak/unlocloak, so you dont want to do it nearby if their isnt something making a lot of noise (explosions, sentry shooting etc)

as an engi, this is the reason you shouldnt constantly hit your wrench on stuff, as it might hide grippa decloaking behind you Shock

and feel free to call me andy, most people generally do Wink
 
Megalomania
You can hear them, but I for one very rarely react before they land a knife in my back Pfft
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Ramini
Wah! I just rewatched meet the soldier and I was wrong! It was Sun-tzu! I've been quoting it wrong continually! And now I actually understand the "its called a Zoo" line!

Edited by Ramini on 25-07-2008 13:04

 
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